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how to model Window with the right Uvalue in equest

I want to ask how to model a window with known U value from Glass library in equest ? The problem that when i choose a glass type and the width of the frame (0.11ft) i don't get the right Uvalue in the report that match with Glass library. I read Somewhere that when i choose a class type from the library i must set the frame width to 0 i don't know if this the right way to do it

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asked 2021-10-20 17:52:25 -0500
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updated 2022-02-21 20:41:41 -0500
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Thanks for your response I tried to double clear glass (2004) with a frame of aluminum with thermal brake : U-value(glass only)= 0.48 Btu/hft2°F and NRFC U-value=0.57 Btu/hft2°F the problem that I get a window conductance value=1.47 Btu/hft2°F. Even when i change the frame width or conductance nothing change

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answered 2021-11-03 18:47:41 -0500
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When I run a glass type 2004 with a thermally broken frame (eQUEST entered frame conductance U-value of 1.245 BTU/hr-ft2-F) with an NFRC size (48" by 59" fixed) I get a U-value of 0.568. I cannot replicate your results. Where are you looking for the window conductance -- in the LV-D report?

bfountain's avatar bfountain (2021-11-06 11:17:03 -0500) edit

in the spreadsheet of the glass Type it is always 1.47 Btu/hft2°F no matter what type of glass I choose

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If you are modelling glazing using an entry from the glass library then you do indeed have to also enter a frame width and frame conduction. The glass library parameters are only for the glass portion of the window, not the frame. If your overall U-value is not as expected, I would first check your frame conduction value. Also note that the spreadsheet showing a U-value is for a standard window size. Larger windows will have proportionally less edge and frame effect so lower U-value. Smaller windows have higher U-values due to dominating edge and frame impact.

Conversely, if you use the simplified method for glass type definition then you enter the whole assembly U-value (NFRC u-value) including the frame and then set your frame width to 0.

The advantage of using the glass library is that the solar impact at different sun angles is more correct as there is a curve for solar as a function of sun angle.

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answered 2021-10-23 07:16:15 -0500
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