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BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of modelling multifamily buildings as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with much more effort by the user to model each unit, I don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only one exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade. The current per-unit approach also seems to mandate that every apartment have an ambient door, whereas in a building-level design under v2.8 it was possible to have entry via access corridors, which is much more common in larger buildings or colder climates.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO, but both were there to suit everyone's needs.

Edit: You can set the number of modeled doors to zero, which is roughly akin to it being adiabatic rather than ambient. This still does not solve the broader issue however,

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of modelling multifamily buildings as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with much more effort by the user to model each unit, I don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only one exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade. The current per-unit approach also seems to mandate that every apartment have an ambient door, whereas in a building-level design under v2.8 it was possible to have entry via access corridors, which is much more common in larger buildings or colder climates.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO, but both were there to suit everyone's needs.

Edit: You can set the number of modeled doors to zero, which is roughly akin to it being adiabatic rather than ambient. This still does not solve the broader issue however,

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of modelling multifamily buildings as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with much more effort by the user to model each unit, I don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only one exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade. The current per-unit approach also seems to mandate that every apartment have an ambient door, whereas in a building-level design under v2.8 it was possible to have entry via access corridors, which is much more common in larger buildings or colder climates.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO, but both were there to suit everyone's needs.

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of multifamily modelling multifamily buildings as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with much more effort by the user to model each unit, I don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade. The current per-unit approach also seems to mandate that every apartment have an ambient door, whereas in a building-level design under v2.8 it was possible to have entry via access corridors, which is much more common in larger buildings or colder climates.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO, but both were there to suit everyone's needs.

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of multifamily modelling as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with much more effort by the user to model each unit, I don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade. The current per-unit approach also seems to mandate that every apartment have an ambient door, whereas in a building-level design under v2.8 it was possible to have entry via access corridors, which is much more common in larger buildings or colder climates.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO, but both were there to suit everyone's needs.IMHO.

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of multifamily modelling as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with much more effort by the user to model each unit, I don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade. The current per-unit approach also seems to mandate that every apartment have an ambient door, whereas in a building-level design under v2.8 it was possible to have entry via access corridors, which is much more common in larger buildings or colder climates.facade.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO.

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of multifamily modelling as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with much more effort by the user to model each unit, I more effort, a don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO.

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of multifamily modelling as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior/results behavior from version 3 without a lot more effort.

However, even with more effort, a don't see how one can readily synchronize the optimizations across units... After all a top floor corner unit could optimize to have much more continuous wall insulation compared to a middle floor unit with only exposed wall, yet you wouldn't want the wall detailing to vary from unit to unit, it would make for a very funky facade.3.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO.

BEopt v3 MF modelling?

There's a line on the BEopt web page describing the removal of multifamily modelling as a new "capability"

The switch from modeling entire multifamily buildings to individual dwelling units

But I seem to be missing something, because I don't see how this helps the user. Are we now expected to generate separate model files to evaluate each apartment in a 30-unit building? How is that supposed to work for optimization, where (more or less) uniform options (esp. shell) should/would be used throughout a building? BEopt v2.8 already generated unit-level and building-level results,** and it's not clear from this description or the help file how one is meant to obtain equivalent behavior from version 3.

** The latter being much more useful IMHO.